Cuore L251 Documents

[terios]

For any follow up, please come there
http://www.daihatsu-forum.de/vbullet...693#post493693

[terios]

Would someone send me please Maintenance Schedule of this car? Pictures from the Owner's Manual will be a good idea.

[terios]

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Anyway, need an accurate answer about the fallowing quantities:

- Engine oil qty
- Cooling water qty
- Gear box lubricant qty and type
- Brake fluid qty
- Battery caracteristics (type, cranking cold A, capacity Ah)

Thanks.

[LSirion]

I sent you a mail ("Private NAchrichten" right above on the right hand side of the screen), just have a look at the link.

It´s in German, for the data look up "Motor", "Getriebe" ("Schaltgetriebe" or "Automatikgetriebe), "Kühlsystem" and "Bremse".

You need a reader for PDF-ducuments and then just have to click onto the magnifying glass or the word itself to get to the right chapter of the manual.

For the battery there seems to be no chapter, just have a look here in the forum, search for "Daihatsu Cuore Batterie".

[terios]

Really thanks a lot for your helpful assistance.

On one battery's site (I don't know if I can mention the name?) they show tow medels accepted for Cuore L251:

Both are:
12V
40A
330Ah

Dimensiosns Length x Width x Height [mm]
Type A14 is 187 x 127 x 227
Type A13 is 187 x 140 x 227

If the electrical performance is correct, I think it should not be a big deal with 13mm of difference in the width.

[terios]

Just one or two more questions : )

1) As per the Owner's Manual, what are:
- recommended km/h for shifting up gears,
- maximum km/h you can reach with each gear.

2) As per the Owner's Manual, in the starting procedure: before we drive the car is it necessary to warm up the engine till the temperature gauge reaches 0 or normal operating level? Or just run smoothly without any delay?

Thanks.

[bluedog]

Ich übersetze:

Es geht um die Empfehlung in der Gebrauchsanweisung, wer kann nennen:

1) gemäss Bedienungsanleitung:
- Empfehlung zum Hochschalten,
- maximale Geschwindigkeit für jeden Gang.

2) Gemäss Bedienungsanleitung: Wie startet man den Wagen richtig: Ist es notwendig, den Motor vorzuwärmen bis die Temperaturanzeige 0 oder den Normalen Bereich erreicht? Oder einfach nur vorsichtig fahren, ohne Verzug?

Danke

I try to give you an answer as good as I can, but that is better confirmed by others...

As far as I remember, for 1):

Maximum km/h:

1. gear: 40km/h
2nd gear: 80km/h
3rd gear: 120km/h
4th gear: ?
5th gear: ?

This is because I had the automatic Version... It only had four gears and slightly different max speeds (e.g 125 km/h in the 3rd gear).

As an additional Info I can tell you that for L251 EJ-VE with manual transmission, top speed was 160km/h, whereas it was 150km/h with automatic transmission.

But it is common that in the 4th. gear you can get faster on good roads with some patience. 5th gear is for fuel economy and added driving comfort, and to prevent engine damage on the long run, not for top speed.

I do not have any Data for EJ-DE, so just keep that in mind.

To the recommended speed for shifting up, I'm not sure if the manual says anything.

As a rough rule of thumb, you can say, that you can take the speed of the Car and divide it by 10 to get the appropriate gear for an economical and smooth driving without too much noise, and then downshift for acceleration.

Generally, you are teached to switch into 2nd gear after passing trough a car lenghty distance, when you make your driving license in europe. (unless the road is mounting too steeply for that, of course).

But, we had that issue earlier in this tread I think... or was it the one with the Terios?

2) European version doesn't have a Temperature gauge. There's only a warning light, in green as long as the coolant is below 65°C, and a red one to tell you that the engine is too hot and needs to be turned off instantly.

But, as it is not an Airplane, which would need to take off at full power, usually we do not warm up engines. In fact, it is even prohibited by law.

Nevertheless, the green light is exactly there to tell you, that the engine is still near ice cold and you better handle it with great care.
The reasonable and thinking driver even waits longer, because above 65°C coolant and therefore no more green light, still means a fairly cold engine, as coolant warms up much faster than the engine oil and the normal coolant temperature for a warm engine lies somewhere above 80°C.

That means, it is generally recommended to drive smoothly for the first 15km after every cold start of the engine. That recommendation comes from some car manufacturers, as well as from motorist clubs.

[LSirion]

Recommended for Shifting up is about:

1st -> 2nd = 22 km/h
2nd -> 3rd = 40 km/h
3rd -> 4th = 60 km/h
4th -> 5th = 85 km/h

This is not the most economic way of driving (you could shift up much earlier), but compared to your driving style, this seems for me to be the best solution.

With that shifting style the engine should always run between 2.000 and 3.000 rpm. See the red arrows in the diagram below. Nearly most economic would be the green arrows.

There may be some rpms where the engine doesn´t run very smoothly (mostly between 2.000 and 2.200 rpm) so, feel free to shift up later, to get higher rpm in the next gear or to shift up earlier, to run the engine between 1.500 and 2.000. My EJ-DE runs very smoothly in these regions.

What does "smoothly" mean? You can always drive right after starting the engine. Hold the revolutions per minute under 3.000 for the first 1 or 2 minutes but also do not accelerate with full throttle. Drive sensitively, you know?

... ...

Oh Man, don´t you have some sensitiveness? You should get some feeling for the car. This feeling you need not only when driving, but even for cooking or... you know... other things in life...

Maximum shifting up speeds are when the engine doesn´t accelerate further. Should be about 53, 94, 148 and 211 km/h.
If the rev-limiter is not at 7.000 but 6.500 rpm, it should be at 49, 87, 137, 196 km/h.

These are the maximum downshifting speeds, too.


All these data without any guarantee! No responsibility taken! (as I don´t know if your car is equipped with the same transmission as the German ones)

[terios]

Thanks all for your technical answers.